HERE is the piece I was responding to. I also included it below at the very bottom.
QANON MAY BE MANY THINGS(Some not so good),BUT ITS DEFINITELY NOT A LARP OR 100% BULLSHIT
Before I start, I must say that I REALLY like “The Freedom Articles” and reblog their stuff all the time and will continue to do so enthusiastically. In this case however, I must admit that I see this as yet another tacky Q hit piece and nothing more than a misplaced, but good intentioned attempt at making a premature conclusion and interpretation of the Q phenomenon based on a multitude of mostly flawed hypothesises & educated inferred speculations. Inferences that are centered around impossible expectations and knee-jerk reaction to what is a fluid, obtuse, bizzare and, most importantly, unprecedented ordeal. A case of what I believe to be a behind-the-scenes bloodline civil war that has been ongoing in one way or another since 2016, triggered by the shocking and unexpected election of Donald J. Trump.
Q is going to take some “L’s”. That was unpreventable. These are very powerful people having it out with each other behind the scenes. Q is simply one of many weapons and strategies that has been deployed by the U.S. military(General Flynn specifically) and those loyal to Trump. And I do agree that there are no such thing as “white hats”.
You cannot judge the quality and consistency of Q drops in black and white. You will end up hating and distrusting Q for all the wrong reasons and in turn miss out on some vital clues and useful, pertinent information that can be put to good use for anyone willing to pay attention.
I say this while conceding that there are in fact a litany of legit reasons to be highly suspicious and distrusting of Q. This healthy apprehension that I and many other good-intentioned(not just hating Q because they hate Conservatives & Trump) individuals have developed for Q, can mostly be attributed to a non-secular interpretation of what myself and many others have come to identify as a long-forwarned Anti-Christ “End Times” scenario that seems to be very clearly playing itself out on a world stage, with Trump as the central antagonist.
I am fully aware however that claims like that are summarily mocked and usually met with hardcore eye-rolling. Even more so than the Q enthusiasts themselves are mocked by Trump Deranged libtards. Which is unfortunate, alas, in this particular instance, I will focus on a more secular interpretation and traditional approach and analysis of the Q phenomenon, its main players and much of what has happened since Q and Trump came onto the scene.
In addition, I should point out that the fact that the author makes the claim that they are 100% certain that Q is bullshit, should have already been setting off alarm bells all over the place for my intelligent, disciplined and open minded subs. Which just about all of you are. 👍…You guys and girls already know to listen to everyone, but trust no one. Especially those who claim to know it all. No one does.
If it were as easy as the author of this piece seems to claim it is to decipher Q’s true agenda, ultimate perogative and subsequent legitimacy, then Q would be doing a terrible job keeping their poker face and would end up ultimately revealing themselves and their actual game plan to the enemy. If I were Q, I would certainly purposefully make myself appear to be incompetent in some cases, while in other cases I would inevitably actually prove to be incompetent and wouldn’t even need to deceive.
The point being is that NO ONE has figured out EXACTLY what’s going on here. Not you, me, and especially not any of the demagogues, simpletons, radicals and religious zealots on social media for that matter. I’m not even sure Q even really knows what’s going on some of the time.
To assert that Q is “100% bullshit” based on these mostly “nothing-burger” and very predictable complaints you make below, is as pretentious as it is one dimensional, unrealistic and shallow.
Like I said before, of course Q is going to take some “L’s”. What do you think this is? If it were that easy then General Flynn would have never needed to start Q in the first place. They would have just rolled over on their enemies in the background and gotten on with running the world and summoning Abbadon for their masters. Legion.
But that’s not what they have done. It is very much a complicated 5D chess match and despite Q’s attempt to always appear calm, cool, collected, and in total control, they are forced to scramble, improvise and try to save face sometimes. Whether that is by design or legitimate is yet to be seen. They don’t have a time machine, despite some of the insinuations made in “Fall of the Cabal” where they dare to imply otherwise. 😉 But there is clear evidence right out in the open that affirms much of Q’s legitimacy and verifies the reality of this ongoing war between the world elites and does verify many of the claims made by Q up until this point.
Let’s look at COUNTLESS examples as to why Q is NOT 100% bullshit and DEFINITELY NOT a LARP.
*There was so much it became exhausting adding at all and I barely scratched the surface. And this is coming from someone who fears that Q may be controlled by not so nice forces, to put it lightly. So that should tell you something right there.
Do you believe in coincidences?
Qproofs
A collection of Qanon evidence provided by Anonymous Patriots
17, 17, 17! | 17 IS REAL?
A thread by #BLUEOUT
Q has said proofs and graphics are important.
I took that as a directive.
This thread will show:
-Q verification
-Q/POTUS connections
-Q/POTUS knowing of news in advance
(more examples than just mine are out there)
@Incarnated4EVA @prayingmedic @StormIsUponUs
#QANON
👇👇👇HERE IS THE PIECE I WAS RESPONDING TO. THEY ARE A GREAT SITE BTW, I JUST DISAGREED WITH THIS PARTICULAR WRITER IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE
Source: By. Caitlin Johnstone | The Freedom Articles | September 12, 2020
How You Can Be 100% Certain That QAnon Is Bullshit
Published 1 day ago on September 12, 2020 By Caitlin Johnstone
No matter what, the Q-Anon cult always excuses Trump’s actions and can never sufficiently prove or validate Q’s drops, quite a few of which have turned out to false predictions.
[This is a May 2019 article from Caitlin, still very relevant today – Ed.]
President Trump has yet again
advanced an evil longstanding agenda of America’s depraved intelligence and defense agencies, so as usual the Q-Anon or QAnon cult is out in force telling everyone not to worry because this is all part of the plan. Ever since WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange was slammed by Trump’s Justice Department with a mountain of espionage chargescarrying a possible sentence of 175 years in prison, QAnon acolytes have been showing up in my social media mentions with screenshots of a new post from the mysterious 8chan anon assuring us all that Assange is actually being protected by Trump.
The post reads in the typical QAnon cryptic word salad style that its adherents often annoyingly imitate when normal people try to engage them in an adult conversation:
“Under protection.
Threat is real.
Key to DNC ‘source’ ‘hack’ ‘187’.
Q”
I find this subject very tedious, and my regular readers aren’t generally the types to fall for this sort of toxic propaganda construct, but I’m putting this information out there anyway as a public service since many people are being deluded by it.
If you’re one of those fortunate enough to be unfamiliar with the QAnon phenomenon, in October of 2017 odd posts began appearing on the anonymous message board 4chan, which is wildly popular with trolls, incels and racists. Those posts ceased appearing on 4chan and moved to a related site, 8chan, where they continue appearing to this day. The poster purports to have insider knowledge of a secret, silent and invisible war that President Trump has been waging against the Deep State with the help of the US military and various “white hats” within the US government, and shares snippets about this war with 8chan users in extremely vague and garbled posts.
Here are three reasons you can be absolutely, 100 percent certain that it’s bullshit:
I don’t generally use the term “deep state” anymore, mainly because its proper meaning has been distorted by right-wingers and Qultists to mean basically “Democrats and Never-Trumpers”, and by mainstream liberals to mean something like “a right-wing conspiracy theory about a secretive cabal of Jews who rule the world”. But originally the term simply referred to a concept used for political analysis to describe the undeniable fact that plutocrats and intelligence/defense agencies tend to form relationships with each other in a way that persists amid the comings and goings of the official elected government.
This alliance has certain agendas that it has consistently pushed for, many of them involving the advancement of wars which financially benefit the plutocrats and which secure geostrategic dominance for the intelligence/defence agencies. Trump has been advancing these longstanding agendas with his administration’s regime change interventionism against Iran and Venezuela, world-threatening new cold war escalations against Russia, military expansionism, continuing and expanding of all of Bushbama’s warmongering and Orwellian surveillance programs, the campaign to destroy WikiLeaks and imprison Julian Assange for life, and many other actions which benefit the agenda of global hegemony and the profit margins of war plutocrats.
Every single time Trump advances one of these depraved agendas and I speak out against it, I begin getting angry social media responses from QAnon cultists telling me to calm down and relax, that this is all part of the plan, and that Trump is actually doing the exact opposite of what he appears to be doing. And when I say “every single time”, I mean exactly that, without a single, solitary exception.
QAnon cultists do this every single time because they have been propagandized into doing so, both by the 8chan anon they follow and by the herd mentality of the community that it has fostered. They begin with the baseless premise that Trump is a righteous warrior against corruption, conclude that everything he does must therefore be a righteous maneuver against Deep State corruption, then apply their hive mind to coming up with reasons to believe this. Then they show up in my mentions telling me I’m crazy for believing Trump is doing the things that he is very plainly and obviously doing.
You don’t need to take my word for this. As of this writing right now you can go to the Twitter search bar and type in the words “Assange” and “QAnon” and you’ll get a bunch of posts explaining that Assange is “under protection”, and that imprisoning a longtime target of the CIA and the Pentagon is actually a devastating blow to the Deep State. You can continue to repeat this exact same experiment every single time Trump advances a disgusting warmongering deep state agenda, and every single time you’ll get the exact same results.
This to me is reason enough to be absolutely certain that QAnon and the credulous cult which has sprouted up around it is crap. US presidents are reliably corrupt warmongers and CIA cronies, so the current president acting like one is not surprising or extraordinary. Trying to justify a US president doing the sort of thing that all US presidents always do as a total deviation from the norm for US presidents would be a ridiculous thing to do even one time. Doing it every single time is fully discrediting.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, you could maybe be excused if you mistook it for a rabbit after one quick glance, but continuing to stare directly at a duck and saying “Yeah that’s definitely a rabbit, look at the long ears” over an extended period of time would mean you’re a bullshitter.
2. The Q-Anon Cult always, always, always refuses to prove the validity of their position.
A year ago I tweeted out that I was thinking of writing an article about QAnon and asked its adherents for their very best links/screenshots proving its legitimacy. Go ahead and have a read of the kinds of responses I got by clicking this hyperlink if you’re curious. No one came remotely close to providing anything like the evidence I’d asked for, with most responses falling along the lines of “You kind of have to just immerse yourself in it over an extended period of time and marinate in it until you believe,” which is the same sort of response you’ll get if you ask a religious proselytizer to prove the legitimacy of their religion. I shared the thread again yesterdayand got the same response, with one QAnon promoter with a fairly large following telling me, “No amount of evidence can be seen by one choosing to stay blind.”
This is completely different from standard conspiracy theories. If you ask a 9/11 truther to prove the legitimacy of their position, they’ll instantly be able to produce clear and concise videos and articles for you, and if they’ve actually done their homework they’ll be able to regale you with information about physics, forensics, architecture, chemistry, and plot holes in the official narrative. If you ask someone who’s got theories about the JFK assassination you’ll get a comparable amount of lucidity. Ask a QAnon cultist for the same level of intellectual transparency and you’ll get a bunch of mealy-mouthed gibberish which will quickly turn into accusations that you are lazy for refusing to do your own research if you keep pressing.
This is because there is no actual, tangible factual basis for the belief system which has sprouted up around QAnon. It begins, just like any other religion, as a premise of faith, and then the adherents to that faith pool their intellectual resources into the task of finding reasons to legitimize that premise. They begin with the premise that Trump is a good and noble savior who is uprooting the source of all of America’s problems with strategic maneuvers which are so brilliant that they look like the exact opposite of what they are, then they let confirmation bias and other cognitive biases do the rest of the work for them.
Again, you don’t need to take my word for this; you can repeat this experiment for yourself. Whenever you encounter a QAnon adherent, either by chance or by seeking them out deliberately, simply ask them to prove the legitimacy of their position. You might get links to sources which attempt to prove that QAnon is connected to the Trump administration (as though that would somehow counter the idea that it’s a pro-Trump propaganda construct), you might get links to the mountain of cryptic word salads that QAnon has posted and told to comb through them yourself, but you won’t ever get anything resembling an attempt to clearly prove that QAnon is the thing that it purports to be. If you keep pushing you’ll encounter nothing but anger as you run into a wall of cognitive dissonance.
This proves that QAnon is not even a proper conspiracy theory, as we’ve come to understand that term. Conspiracy theories, per definition, consist of some sort of concrete theory. QAnon, like Russiagate, consists of nothing other than something that people desperately want to believe and then seek out excuses which allow them to feel comfortable believing it. This makes it far more akin to a religion or a cult than a conspiracy theory.
If QAnon were legitimate, it would be easy for its followers to demonstrate that legitimacy in a clear and simple way. They never can.
3. Q made many bogus claims and inaccurate predictions.
I’m putting this one last instead of first because the appeal of QAnon has very little to do with facts and evidence; if you show these to a Q cultist they’ll typically just say “Oh Q didn’t really mean that” or “That one wasn’t the real Q” or even “Disinformation is necessary” (a John Bolton doctrinewhich QAnon itself has proclaimed on multiple occasions), but for anyone who’s kind of on the fence about the whole thing you should be aware that the QAnon phenomenon has been rife with demonstrable inaccuracies. Personally I prefer to focus on the behaviors of the QAnon cultists themselves, since they’re the ones interpreting the cryptic word salads and circulating those interpretations online. They behave as cheerleaders for their government’s most depraved agendas; it doesn’t really matter what they are being told to believe to get them to behave that way.
This recent Reddit post on r/conspiracy breaks down many of the bogus claims, inaccurate predictions and deceitful manipulations that the QAnon construct has made since its inception. They include claiming in October 2017 that Hillary Clinton had been arrested and to expect mass rioting in response, posting and then deleting a fake Podesta email, posting multiple photoshopped images as though they were real, posting a bogus photo suggesting that the operator of the account was on Airforce One, and posting bogus “codes” that are demonstrably nothing other than gibberish.
I don’t claim to know everything about this QAnon thing or who exactly is behind it, but these three points I just outlined in my opinion kill all doubt that it’s not what it purports to be. For anyone looking at them with intellectual honesty rather than the same way a creationist or cult member might look at something which challenges their faith, anyway.
It is not good that a vocal and enthusiastic part of Trump’s largely anti-interventionist, pro-WikiLeaks base has been propagandized into consistently stumping for longtime agendas of the CIA and the Pentagon. Someone’s benefiting from this, and it isn’t you.
Rachel Dempster
I think Q is legitimate and I also think there are white hats are to . But as you say we do not know who the rich people are who are behind this and what their plans are Trump got his orders and he does not know either? They have made some headway it is 5D chess and Trump is good at it. But as you said listen to everyone and trust no one this manufactured Prophecy is being worked through by these people and we seem to be pawns in a game they all set up – what’s new eh. Our world is getting more crazy and I liken it to episodes from Dr Who it is becoming very bizarre. These people will play with our heads until we do not even know our own name if we are not careful.
URGENT! People in UK get in to the government website they want to know our opinion before they attempt to force testing and that disturbing injection on the people you must fill in the form before the 18th September 2020. This is very important please take action ASAP Suffice to say the UK government were not shouting this from the mountain tops so I hope Jerry will forgive me for informing you about it here. Thank you P.S. if you trust that injection you need your head read!
Jerry Derecha @adrenogate
Lol. You were forgiven before I even read the comment. Especially since it was you. I could never get mad at someone for expressing an honest opinion. I even leave up the comments that outright attack me. You are right on with all your logic despite my continued hesitancy towards the actual benevolence of Q. I still think they are legion, but it sure would be nice to see Trump do this revaluation he’s been hinting at. So long as it doesn’t require any kind of mark to access the money. Can Americans still put in their two cents on this form? Or Brits only? I’d pay to see the look on the face of whatever U.K. official ended up reading my opinions on state forced vaccinations.